Curse

thor hammerbane · Jan 31, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

@ Anet Administrators

Go to great temple, any american district. Have fun banning.

Darkobra · Jan 31, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

Generally, free trials make a game more successful. So to quickly say "Take it down, don't let anyone get it", is jumping the gun a bit. Yes, I'm annoyed by the parasitic gold sellers, too. But getting rid of this would stop people getting the chance of trying the game before they buy it, which isn't really fair on their behalf.

Gaile Gray · Jan 31, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor hammerbane

@ Anet Administrators

Go to great temple, any american district. Have fun banning.

Did you miss my post?

That's exactly what I did tonight, and that's what our Support Team is doing daily. (I'm not Support, I was just helpin' out.

) Please, give us a bit of time to work out the kinks in reducing the advertising!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkobra

Generally, free trials make a game more successful. So to quickly say "Take it down, don't let anyone get it", is jumping the gun a bit. Yes, I'm annoyed by the parasitic gold sellers, too. But getting rid of this would stop people getting the chance of trying the game before they buy it, which isn't really fair on their behalf.

Thank you for understanding!

flclisgreat · Jan 31, 2008, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Did you miss my post?

That's exactly what I did tonight, and that's what our Support Team is doing daily. (I'm not Support, I was just helpin' out.

) Please, give us a bit of time to work out the kinks in reducing the advertising!

Thank you for understanding!

thanks Gaile. i understand that you need the trial accounts to sell more GW(hell, even i bought all the games/expansions once i tried a trial account). but there does seem to be a need to limit it some way.

edit: i would like to say, i think that 9 minutes was well worth your time(post time-edit time)

DarkWasp · Jan 31, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Gold selling is really getting out of hand these days in any game. I bet they come from the same place that sends everyone about 600 million male enhancement junkmails every day.

I say the FBI needs to split up into two departments, Standard and Internet.

It may seem like we're only playing a game, but this gold selling stuff is very serious.

BenjZee · Jan 31, 2008, 03:04 PM // 15:04

lol the A-net-team should really go there in a big gang and starting whacking away with the ban hammer

Nemo the Capitalist · Jan 31, 2008, 03:09 PM // 15:09

block list is annoying

Big_Iron · Jan 31, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

I almost live in DnD. No whispers ever. Of course that means friends can't whisper me either, but everyone I know is in my guild so we can still talk in guild chat.

stretchs · Jan 31, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Clearly not a whisper control problem as a botting problem. One nice feature would be no one allowed except for alliance/friends list as an option.

nbajammer · Jan 31, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Wasn't there also some debacle about people using /report to report these guys but *someone else* is the one reported instead? If so, that's another major component to be looked into. Sure these are trial accounts, and banning them may not be worth much, but if you ban em fast enough they will be too busy making new trials to be able to whisper anyone. At least, in theory.

I have to agree with those who said that getting rid of trials isnt the answer. It's not - I'm playing a trial of LOTRO, and without that, I wouldnt be able to decide whether or not to get it. Would be the same with Guild Wars as well, if the case were that I didnt have it. I think restrictions on whispers is probably the best answer (and thankfully, I am not getting many gold-selling pms. Some, yes, but not many.).

LeoX · Jan 31, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Was on another thread and i said that it had never happened to me.
Yesterday i was zoning in/out of Temple of Balt and i got PM'ed every time luls.
I was like, yeah that's just my luck, said it never happened, and now i get spammed.
Never say never.

pygar · Jan 31, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

I hadn't had much problem with bots (in fact I had heard of them but never seen one), until lately...they have literaly invaded the temple of balthazar....the people who own the bots even have the gaul to make thier message "welcome to xxxxxxxx.com gold sell blah blah pwr lvl blah blah" making it sound like they own the place.

Gaile mentions above that they did a sweep and banned some bots, which I noticed later last nite also....sorry that you A-net guys have to burn up your time dealing with crap like this. (If they are going to get this aggressive and ballsy with their spam, you guys need to get one of these a-holes into court, make sure they get jail time or sue them for every penny they have.)

To the gold sellers- your spam is not encouraging anybody to buy things from you.....really just frikin stop it all ready.

Dylananimus · Jan 31, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Maybe they should make it so trial accounts can't whisper people. Or go so far as to make them unable to chat in game at all.

It could be like shooting themselves in the foot though, if people using the trials legitimately can't check out all the features :/

Darkobra · Jan 31, 2008, 06:32 PM // 18:32

People use the trials to test the gameplay, though. If they're having fun in a game, there's little need to talk. Especially in a trial.

Divinus Stella · Jan 31, 2008, 06:49 PM // 18:49

The problem isnt the spammers, its the people that actually buy the gold and dont get banned for it.

If anet actually banned the thousands of people that buy gold every day then it would deter others, without demand there will be no bots and chinese people to spam you.

RedNova88 · Jan 31, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

The problem isnt the spammers, its the people that actually buy the gold and dont get banned for it.

If anet actually banned the thousands of people that buy gold every day then it would deter others, without demand there will be no bots and chinese people to spam you.

Yep. Stop people from buying gold and hopefully the sellers business will wither and make itself scarce.

Also an idea of how they get so many accounts is probably

A: Trials.
B: A lot of gold selling websites most likely carry keyloggers. You buy gold then get your account hijacked= Much more profit for them, since then in turn they can use the gold YOU bought and YOUR account to sell more of it to the next unsuspecting fool.

So as the above stated. Getting people to stop falling for this is really the key.

Darkobra · Jan 31, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

If there is a cure for stupidity, please share your knowledge with the doctors.

Craywulf · Jan 31, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

The problem isnt the spammers, its the people that actually buy the gold and dont get banned for it.

If anet actually banned the thousands of people that buy gold every day then it would deter others, without demand there will be no bots and chinese people to spam you.

I suspect those that do buy gold don't do it often. Depending on amount of gold, just once is enough to sustain 4 characters for a long time. Secondly its virtually cost nothing for soliciting for gold. So even if a bot spams a district for 7 weeks and no one buys from the bot. It means nothing either way.

Personally I think the trial accounts should be $5 a piece to help pay for its potential annoyance of bots. Secondly, whisper chat needs to be removed for trial accounts. If a new player has a question, they can ask it publicly. If they want to chat privately they can temporarily invite the player in question to their group then use team chat.

Bryant Again · Jan 31, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by Dylananimus

Maybe they should make it so trial accounts can't whisper people. Or go so far as to make them unable to chat in game at all.

It could be like shooting themselves in the foot though, if people using the trials legitimately can't check out all the features :/

It's not just a feature, it's the most critical feature. No communication = pretty much no gameplay. The game is entirely party oriented; take out the chief ingredient - communication - and you will not have a fun time at all.

schaapie · Jan 31, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

I really get anoyed about those stupid bots. Also i can not report them becuase they are not in the district.